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I AGREE WITH YOU DR. LARA ZIBNERS!KUDOS to you!

It is not about a parent and how they “feel” it is about the child and what is best for society as a whole!

Those ANTIVAXERS will never ever get it….

    – Mommy2angelplus2 (09/20 07:51 PM)

I did all the research before getting my children vaccinated (I have Crohn’s Disease and with another idiot linking Crohn’s and autism with the MMR, I thought I ought to do some reading) amd couldn’t find anything written by REPUTABLE scientists disapproving of vaccines. Both my girls are fully up to date with all the vaccines and will continue to be - kudos to you for getting the nutjob fraternity up in arms! Keep going with the writing and rants x

    – Lisa_J_D (09/21 03:30 AM)

I guess if you want some attention, write about vaccines.  But the people who wrote on your wall about how wonderful vaccines are came directly out of the pages where parents with vaccine injured children post.  We have a constant stream of trolls that come through and find ways to combat everything we say.  Many are paid pharma reps - and they are paid to come on posts such as this and talk about how wonderful vaccines are.  The truth is, if you actually had done your homework, you would find there is very little good about vaccines.  I asked you how much research you personally had done on this topic and you didn’t respond.  Why don’t you actually do what many doctors have done and dig in?  Spend about a year doing the research.  Those that do never come out of it believing that vaccines saved anyone.  And if you are so sure about your position, I welcome you to come to our group and talk to the parents whose children have been harmed.  You have my email address, send me an email and I will give you the details.  But please, stop discrediting these people.  Keep in mind that the pro-vax crowd also posts as if they are anti-vaxxers, pretending to be crazed lunatics believing that the reptilian freaks are out to get us - in order to discredit us.  But of course, you wouldn’t know that would you, since you haven’t really looked into any of this past the surface..  You just post from an authoratative position and you only have a fraction of the story.  Wake up and quit posting nonsense

    – No Vax No WAy (09/21 10:17 AM)

I agree.  Some parents are so tired and rightfully so after taking care of their children whom they know have been damaged from vaccines.  It is difficult in everyday life for many to not have their voices heard and understood in situations that are so much less important and close to a person’s heart.  (And, no, just because it is an emotional topic, with good reason, doesn’t mean the parents have no real experience or knowledge to back up their claims).  I say shame on this doctor and all others who exploit the parents and all the other parents who are trying to expose vaccines for what they often are - dangerous and illness-creating.  How about going head to head with all the people who have a whole lot of experience and knowledge and oppose what you think—in a calm and longer-term setting?  A facebook page or a blog here and there with subsequent comments are insufficient, at best.

Oh and I have worked in highly respected research areas and I no longer vax my children.  I also am quite familiar with leading pediatricians who have come out of major research university and practitioner settings who At the Very Least, question vaccines.  Likely too afraid to say what they think completely in a public forum.  I don’t blame them at all for that.  They need to continue their careers after the realization these vaccinations are not what we’ve been trained to think they are… and pay their bills… and feed their families.  Once and a while a courageous one breaks free completely to educate the public… too bad then they are condemned for it by all their peers.  THEY are heroes (along with the children and parents who have been struggling with post-vaccine illnesses).

    – Katherine (09/21 11:50 AM)

IJustGotMyFluShot ~  I am wondering based on what research and package inserts you are getting the flu shot.  Maybe the insert that reads there is no research that claims it prevents the flu?  Oh Lord, hopefully not the kind that spreads it around… 

To the one who claims above they have crohns.  Perhaps if you read thoroughly to understand the body/health and speak to professionals who clearly comprehend, why such illnesses make you and potentially your future lineage susceptible to consequences of vaxxing, you would choose differently.  Simply looking for ‘reputable’ people the way you stated it doesn’t seem like much work was done to complete a decision-making process.  I would be careful in making such important decisions.  It takes time. 

And, I wouldn’t be trusting people who focus more on their egos and wealth than actually taking time to help people to health and wellbeing.  (And yes, that includes the many MANY docs who zip you in to their office for the sniffles and out the door with unnecessary pharmacuetical tickets in hand). Maybe instead meet and surround yourself with the incredible amt of people in the world thriving w/o trips to the conventional doc, unless an emergency happens.  Those people are eating well, exercising, and avoiding unnecessary intervention…however.

There are a good # of docs, however, who don’t want to lose their business by admitting many interventions are harmful instead of healthy… but at least they will allow you to make your own informed decisions.  They will say some things are bad however and will not overprescribe.  If you are more comfortable still making regular visits… I’d go for that kind if you don’t want or have a more holistic practitioner to visit.

Oh, and no need for most docs to be shills! Cha.Ching Cha.Ching Cha.Ching.  And if you are lucky enough to get a popular blog or radio spot~ ego stroked to boot ~ and more cha.ching!  Less threat of being fired too. 

Now that’s the kind of job security and satisfaction many only dream of…..<cue chorus of angels>

    – Katherine (09/21 02:39 PM)

My apologies, reasonable mom.  Perhaps that was a bit too theatrical for your ears. (re. cha ching)

The fact of the matter is:  greed, social and professional pressure to conform, attention, and pure laziness often override reasoning.

Theatre and psychological analysis completely aside, however, one can simply not be a reasonable person if you do not look across all the data, global public health history, the nature of illnesses and disease, vaccination research to date, adverse events (we know of), environmental research to date, development across the lifespan (from conception on), epigenetics, rise in mild to serious illnesses and death including those in pediatrics, and much much more and conclude that vaccinations are GOOD.

So fellow mom if you have done all that for the extreme amount of time and effort it takes, as well as sat with the parents of the vaccine-injured children—ears-wide-open— and respected medical and research professionals who also question vaccines, then you just may earn that title and I will tip my hat to you.

    – Katherine (09/21 09:11 PM)

Antivaxers are often quite hilarious.

It turns out the combination of stupid, gullible and paranoid is much funner than it sounds!

You couldn’t make this stuff up…

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